E59 - Don't Go There

Jeff: 0:00

This week, why would you go down there, don't go to that country, movie quotes, and political idiots. Welcome to Subpar Talks. Hey everybody, welcome to Subpar Talks, where we have conversations about everything. I'm Jeff.

Chris: 0:32

And I'm Chris. Thank you again for joining us. And of course, before we get going, if you don't know it by this point, then what the hell have you been doing? It's our standard disclaimer. Listener discretion is advised. We are gonna curse, and maybe we'll curse a lot. And we touch on some mature subject matter depending on the episode, so if that doesn't sound like your thing, then maybe this is not for you. But for everybody else, sit back, relax, and get ready, because here we go with this week's topics. So, I saw this article the other day about some guy that was, uh, he's a cave explorer I don't know what you, I mean, I know you can call him, like, a spelunker,

Jeff: 1:16

but... Spelunker, spelunker, yeah, I don't know how to say that, but I know what you're talking about. But

Chris: 1:20

then I saw some other term, just, that was more everyday term, just an explorer person, but anyway, he goes into this cave in Turkey... And it's like the second, I think the second deepest cave they have. Uh oh. It was like 3, 000 feet down under the surface.

Jeff: 1:44

He gets sick. This is not gonna end well, is it? No, it's not

Chris: 1:47

going well at all. And I just can't, I can't... It almost makes me claustrophobic to talk about it. I just can't imagine going, yep, I'm going down in there, and I'm gonna see what's there. Cuz,

Jeff: 2:04

damn. Have you ever been, uh, so I remember when I was young, we went to Carlsbad Caverns in New Mexico. Have you ever been in anything like that? I

Chris: 2:14

went in Carlsbad Caverns. There's another, uh. And I can't remember what it's called. There's one on the way between, um, like Austin and San Antonio.

Jeff: 2:24

Yes. I've been to that one too. I don't remember what it's called. And I've been in

Chris: 2:26

there. Yeah. So that's

Jeff: 2:29

cool. Yeah. But when you get way down there, like, I think you have a tour guide and they give a light and all that, but. You get down there and on the tours I've been on, they'll shut off the light for a second just to show you how dark it is. And you will never experience dark like that unless you're in that setting. And it's amazing. Like, you can't even see your hand in front of your face. No, it's

Chris: 2:52

crazy. I just, and that's what I think about when you think about somebody going exploring is the only light they have is whatever light is on them. Which there again, I mean, how far out can that be shining? It's, you can't see that much even with your own light.

Jeff: 3:12

No fact. Um, yeah, I'm having to get a deep breath now that you're talking about it. So what happened to this poor soul?

Chris: 3:20

Well, okay. So I didn't see this until later in the article. So he was down there with his fiance also. So, at least he wasn't alone, but he got some kind of stomach problem where his stomach was bleeding, and he's vomiting blood.

Jeff: 3:41

And

Chris: 3:41

so, it says that he lost a lot of blood? And he couldn't get out, like, he was too sick and too weak to get himself out. So get this, she leaves him to go get help. Like, and so he said she was an experienced explorer, cavist, whatever, too. And so, she, she was good to do that, she leaves, goes to get help, comes back with medical supplies, but they end up using resources from Turkey, and it didn't mention the other countries, but just other European countries, that helped to rescue him. It said they had to, like, send workers down. And they went, like, in shifts, they had to make different, like, camps. Inside the cave, as they were going to ascend, they were having to bring him up through vertical areas and horizontal areas. It said through cold water and mud and like, holy fuck. Is this guy worth it? What? I don't, okay. That's exactly what I start thinking. It's like, at what point do you say. It's too much.

Jeff: 5:06

Yeah. Right.

Chris: 5:08

Like, you, what are you doing down there anyway? Who's gonna pay for all of that? That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. Who in the hell is gonna pay

Jeff: 5:19

for all of that? I was gonna make a joke a while ago that when he was sick and couldn't make it out, she just left and said, well, we can't have two deaths here, so I'll see you later. Yeah. Wow. So is He's alive. He, he's okay. He's alive and in a

Chris: 5:39

hospital. Yeah. Well, he may be out of the hospital now. At that time of the article, he was still in the hospital. They were giving him fluids and all kinds of stuff

Jeff: 5:49

like that. What was the thing with the stomach? Did he just like e coli or whatever?

Chris: 5:55

They didn't at in that article. They didn't know. They hadn't identified They hadn't identified it yet.

Jeff: 6:06

God damn that. Yeah. I gotta get a deep breath just thinking about that, but holy shit. Yeah. How long did it take to get him out? Do you know? It had, it was, had to be several hours.

Chris: 6:18

Oh yeah, I, it might have crossed, it might have crossed days because there were people that went down and came back up, like, you know, like I said, they were having to bring him from one level to another and, wow. So when the fiance came back, she had like IVs and stuff, so I guess she administered the IVs, like took it, went back to him down there. And at least started getting him fluids and everything while they were working on the actual rescue effort.

Jeff: 6:51

My God. Uh, is he American? Yeah.

Chris: 6:56

Lives in New York, not New York City, but New York. And see, that's just it. Like who says, all right, I live in New York. I'm going to go halfway around the world. And find a hole in the ground

Jeff: 7:11

and

Chris: 7:12

just, just start exploring what's

Jeff: 7:15

down there. So I just read an article about how adventure tourism has taken off. People are more likely to be going to places that before nobody would have gone to, but people are for whatever, for different reasons, I guess, looking for adventure and the article focused on Mongolia, people going to Mongolia of all places. And, just, you know, exploring whatever, and holy shit, I'm out, I'm not going there. What's there? I don't know. Bunch of fields, desert, the mountains I got, I have no idea, I don't know much about Mongolia. I know where it is, but I don't know much about it.

Chris: 7:55

I don't know. You know, just thinking about, if, if something's wrong with you, like, an illness of any kind, you want to be at your house. Maybe in your bed, or on your couch, whatever, on your own toilet, whatever. Like, you want your space, and can you imagine going through something like that, and you're down in a cave, in the dark, and at times by yourself? That's freaky. I just can't

Jeff: 8:28

even believe. Um, so, speaking of Turkey, you brought that up, I thought, would I go to Turkey? And my inclination is to say no, like they have a... I don't know if you'd call him a dictator, but it's a pretty authoritarian regime they have there, and I'd be scared. I'd be, I don't know, kidnapped, who the hell knows what. Yeah? Um, so anyway. I don't know what

Chris: 9:00

they have that would

Jeff: 9:00

draw me there. Yeah, I'm the same way. Like, what's there? I don't know. Bunch of old shit, I guess. But, I don't know. Have you ever been to the United States State Department website? Yeah,

Chris: 9:13

I actually signed up. Yeah, I actually signed up for alerts at one time when I was traveling internationally. Yeah, and when I would go, when I would go anywhere internationally, I would go on there and log my trip. Like, I wanted to be able to

Jeff: 9:29

find me. Well, that's a good thing. Yeah, in fact, so the reason I'm asking is because they have, you know, the State Department issues travel advisories for, I guess, every single country, like, you know, should I go here? What do I need to look out for? Whatever. And yeah, they have this program. I guess this is what you did where you can sign up and they're going to be able to know where you are. And. You know, if there's some kind of terrorist attack or whatever. Yeah, I

Chris: 9:55

kind of like that. It's like, all right, you know I'm here. Come get me

Jeff: 9:59

out. You know who I am, damn it. So anyway, I looked at the travel advisory for Turkey. So the State Department has, um, number one is the safest. This is exercise normal precautions. So if you're going to Canada or something like that, just, you know, be on the lookout, don't, you know, don't freak out at anything. You're probably going to be okay, but just be normal. Number two is exercise increased caution. Number three is reconsider travel and four is do not travel. Yeah. So where do you think Turkey falls in the mix?

Chris: 10:41

Man, see, I don't even know enough about them, but when you say they're a dictatorship or something like that, very authoritarian, I would think they're going to be higher up on that. Probably 3?

Jeff: 10:55

I thought they would be a 3, they're actually a 2. Level 2, Exercise Increased Caution, uh, Exercise Increased Caution When Traveling to Turkey Due to Terrorism and Arbitrary Detentions. Some Areas Have Increased Risk. Terrorist groups continue to plot possible attacks in Turkey, and they go on to warn about terrorism, just generally speaking.

Chris: 11:19

Wait, and that only rates them a 2?

Jeff: 11:22

Well, here we go. Yeah, but there's terrorism. Like, I looked on, uh, like France, and they have the same thing. Although they're 1, they still say watch out for terrorist activity. I guess that's a worldwide thing. OK. Like I don't, I don't think there's any place you could go to where they're going to say no there's absolutely zero risk of terrorism. Yeah. The next paragraph says security forces have detained, this would keep me out of the whole goddamn country right here, security forces have detained tens of thousands of individuals including US citizens for alleged affiliations with terrorist organizations based on scant or secret evidence. And grounds that appear to be politically motivated. U. S. citizens have also been subject to travel bans that prevent them from departing Turkey. Participation in demonstrations not explicitly approved by the government of Turkey, as well as criticism of the government, including on social media, can result in arrest. Wow. So there you go.

Chris: 12:20

But the first part you said almost sounds like... We can make up a bunch of shit and, and hold you for

Jeff: 12:28

that too. And keep you from leaving the country. Yeah. Now it has a certain provinces that are a level four, do not travel. And these are, I'm not even going to name the present provinces cause you won't know, and I didn't know either. But, it says don't go to any area within 6 miles of the Syrian border. That's probably good advice. I mean, I'm staying the fuck away from Syria as far as I can get, yes.

Chris: 12:58

Well, so that's like, you know, I've been to Brazil a couple of times, three times, I guess. That may have been when I went on the State Department site and started entering that stuff, but for Brazil, yeah, it's different in different areas, too, and they'll tell you, like, don't go within, I don't remember what it is, 100 miles, something like that, of the Colombian border, and something else.

Jeff: 13:25

Yeah, I'm looking at it right

Chris: 13:26

now, yeah. Right around there, so, yeah, I'm like, I'm gonna stay far away from that. I don't need that.

Jeff: 13:34

Overall, they're a level two. Yeah, but it's such a big country. So yeah, I can understand how there'd be different areas. The far, yeah.

Chris: 13:42

The farther away you get from Columbia, Venezuela, places like that, then yeah, generally the better it is, but. Yeah, they've got their own

Jeff: 13:53

issues. It says, uh, Level 4, do not travel to any favelas, is that how you say them? Informal housing, dwellings, developments. Stay away from those. Good advice. OK, I gotta read you, I only have one more thing on this, I gotta read you North Korea's information. Alright.

Chris: 14:18

Is there, like, a can't travel, like,

Jeff: 14:20

a 5? Well, it says do not travel, so, here you go. North Korea. I love how North Korea calls itself the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea. Like they have any kind of a say at all. OK, Do not travel to North Korea due to the continuing serious risk of arrest and long term detention of U. S. nationals. Exercise increased caution in North Korea due to the critical threat of wrongful detention. OK, All U. S. passports are invalid for travel to... in or through North Korea unless specifically validated for such travel under the authority of the Secretary of State. Special validations are granted only in very limited circumstances. More information on how to apply, blah, blah, blah. OK. This is what cracked me up, and this is why I'm sharing it with you. If you receive a special validation to travel to North Korea, and it's got bullet points, number one, draft a will and designate appropriate insurance beneficiaries and power of attorney. That's awesome. That is some serious shit. Uh, number two, discuss a plan with loved ones regarding care and custody of children, pets, property, belongings, uh, non liquid assets, and your funeral wishes. Damn. Yeah, so, don't go there. You're probably not coming back. Subpar Talks, LGBT, subpartalks. com, www. independentjeff. com, www. independentjeff. com,

Chris: 16:08

www. independentjeff. com, I have some kind of curiosity. If I knew I could get in and get out, then I would be interested in going. Knowing that I might not get out, I have no interest. But, you know, for example, I've always had an interest in going to Cuba. Like, I want to see what that's like. I want to see, like, how are they living? They've been shut off from the world for so

Jeff: 16:41

long. Well, during the Obama administration, we released... A lot of those restrictions. And I think for a while Americans were able to travel there, but I think Trump rescinded some of that, or I don't know what the situation is now. Yeah, I'm

Chris: 16:56

not really sure where it stands either. And there were certain groups at one time that could go, I think teachers and other people like that, but I didn't know if it was ever. Maybe it was. I wasn't sure if it was that just anybody could go. Yeah. But yeah, I, I'd be interested. I knew a guy, I knew a guy through work who went even before those restrictions were lifted and he would go to Mexico and then pay cash. To get a flight to Cuba and then go back through Mexico and then back to the

Jeff: 17:36

United States. Why did he want to go to Cuba so badly? He wanted to go. Wow.

Chris: 17:42

Just a tourist. So he said

Jeff: 17:45

that already worries me right there going to certain parts of Mexico and just paying who the fuck knows who this is and then you're getting on a plane. So Cuba is a level two. Interesting. So I guess we can still go. I guess so. Maybe we should do an episode from Cuba. We should do that. Yeah. Let's go. Should I draft a will first? Probably. Hey, have you ever seen, so this is speaking to Turkey, have you ever seen, uh, the movie Midnight Express? No. So, it's a true story, and a guy, the movie's like 1978, 79, something like that, a guy is trying to smuggle drugs out of the country, he's an American, and he gets caught and sent to a Turkish prison, and just about his experience there, and he escapes, it's not like a, I'm not spoiling anything if you decide to watch it. I remember liking it OK, but the scene that I remember is, uh, he finally gets to see his wife or girlfriend, I don't know, I don't know who she is, I don't remember, but they're separated by the, the glass panel or the clear plastic panel, you know, talking to each other. And he starts, he starts jerking off, and she puts her tits on the glass, and then that's, that's all I remember from the movie, but I do remember liking it, but anyway, that was a very strange scene. Yeah, you're not really

Chris: 19:31

selling it to me.

Jeff: 19:34

Well, you don't see his... Junk. You do get to see her, so, okay. To what? That's worse. Well, that, yeah, that changes things. there's a reference to that movie in Seinfeld. Was there? Yeah, let me think. So this is, uh, the secret code, is that the name of the episode where George won't give up? Yeah, his a t m code and Jerry's trying to get it from him and they're in the coffee shop and he says, what if I am in a Turk Turkish prison? In a Turkish prison? And yeah, he says something and then says, so you're in a Turkish prison? And Jerry says, midnight Express my friend. That's what he says. So it's a reference to that movie. Really. Okay. But then George says, my ATM code won't work there, they're not on the PLUS system. What is that? Oh,

Chris: 20:28

yeah. I don't know what, I don't know if it exists now. Wait, PLUS? That's what he said?

Jeff: 20:35

I remember learning it way back when, but I don't remember what it is.

Chris: 20:39

I don't know. I, I can't talk intelligently about it. I remember hearing, I remember way back when, when ATMs were newer, there was, was there Pulse? I remember there was Pulse or something. Yeah. I think that's what I had confused it with. I don't know. Some financial network I guess.

Jeff: 21:01

Hmm. Uh, oh, I just thought of this. Kind of the same thing. Did you ever see the movie Broke Down Palace? No. That's a good movie. You should watch that. It's from probably 2000, 2001, something like that. I don't know if it's based on a true story, but these two girls go to Thailand and then they get caught. I don't think they intended to. I think somebody planted it on them, but they get caught at the airport with drugs and it's about their experience and that'll keep me from ever going to Thailand. That movie right there. Wow, that can't be good. No. Did you ever see Red Corner? Oh yeah, that's a good movie.

Chris: 21:43

That makes me think of that. Yeah, that freaked me out.

Jeff: 21:46

Yeah, that was China, right? Yeah. See, there's certain countries where... I mean, you mentioned making it out. I want to know that I'm going to make it out and there's not going to be any issue. Like, I just, you know, I don't want to be detained. Just a non event. Yes, exactly. A non event. Yeah. I want, like, my biggest obstacle to be a language barrier. That's, that's, uh... Yeah. Exactly.

Chris: 22:16

I, you know, we've talked plenty on here about issues in the United States of all kinds, but I will say, when I have traveled internationally, it is still a satisfying feeling. Now, I could, well, I'll finish that. It is a satisfying feeling to get back into the United States and be like, OK, I made it. Yeah. Now, I might feel differently about that if I, if I changed my, my outlook to go live in another country, for example. Like, if I kind of took that on as, hey, this is my home, then maybe I'd feel differently about that. But knowing that the United States is my home, then it is a very comforting feeling to be like, I made it back. Yeah. Uh, I'm in, I'm

Jeff: 23:13

in. And, uh, I don't know, our listeners know by this point that I'm not like rah, rah, go America, Mr. Patriotic, but when we were in Germany on a connecting flight, this has been over 20 years ago, but we were in Frankfurt. And there's an airport base or an airbase there, a US airbase. And it was cool seeing, like, I don't know, was this connected to the airport or were they just stationed there or something? But we saw American fighter jets and I thought, Hey, that's pretty cool. You know, I feel kind of protected here. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty good feeling. Like if something goes down. They're gonna have my back. Or maybe not, I don't know. Maybe not. But it was cool to see. You're

Chris: 24:05

just one person, we'll take him out to... Right.

Jeff: 24:10

I wonder if people would spend a bunch of money and whatever else to get me out of a cave. Well, you would hope so. I would hope so, but they might learn who I am and say, uh, just... It's best to just let him go. See, that's

Chris: 24:23

just it about that guy. Like how, how did they decide, yeah, we're going to

Jeff: 24:29

do all of this. What if he's a terrorist? What if he's a murderer? Serial killer.

Chris: 24:36

Or what if he's just nothing special at all? It's just your everyday guy that decided to go hunt through caves. I mean, see, we've talked about this before and that that's. Like the idea that if your house is on fire, the fire department's coming and you don't pay for that. Yeah. But we have to pay for an ambulance.

Jeff: 24:59

Yeah, that's messed

Chris: 25:00

up. So we have to do that. So then that makes me think about situations like that. Like who pays for that? Who pays for all those rescue

Jeff: 25:09

efforts? I don't know. That's a good question.

Chris: 25:12

Anybody, do you just say thank you very much and

Jeff: 25:14

go on your way? Well, from, thanks a lot for extracting me from this cave that I shouldn't have been in in the first place. Right. And the

Chris: 25:23

multiple countries that

Jeff: 25:25

participated. Yeah. The story you told, it sounded like you had the whole continent of Europe, like trying to get this guy

Chris: 25:30

out. I know,

Jeff: 25:36

speaking of movies,'cause uh, you had the Turkey thing and then I thought about Midnight Express. And that movie and something recently I came across talked about movie quotes. And so I thought this would be a good opportunity to talk about some famous movie quotes. So I'm on this particular website is, uh, hubspot. com. This author has what she says are the top 50 famous movie quotes. I'm not gonna do all 50, but we'll count down 25 to 1, and I'm gonna see how well you do with this. So can you identify the movie that these quotes come from? How confident are you?

Chris: 26:20

Well, I mean, you mentioned some movies that I've never seen, so that makes me wonder. I feel like I'm pretty good with movie quotes. Especially if they are more famous movies, but we'll see.

Jeff: 26:34

So I just glanced at the top 25 here and just a quick run through. I think I've seen half of these maybe, but the ones I haven't seen, I still could have gotten because they are so well known, so. We'll see. OK. OK. Number 25. Speaking of movies that I have not seen, I haven't seen this one, and this is highly grammatically incorrect. It's gonna be troubling for me to say it, but here's the quote. You is kind. You is smart. You is important.

Chris: 27:19

Oh, man. I

Jeff: 27:19

don't know. That quote is from The Help from 2011. OK. Did you ever see

Chris: 27:25

it? I've seen it. I saw it once. Yeah. It was a good movie. I remember liking it. I don't remember a lot about it.

Jeff: 27:34

You're, uh, okay. You're Oh, for one, uh, 24 Today, I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the earth. No, I do know this one. I haven't seen the movie. It's from the pride of the Yankees 1942. It's Lou Gehrig giving his like speech or whatever. Okay. After he had been diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease. Yeah.

Chris: 28:00

With his own disease.

Jeff: 28:02

Yeah. He owned it. All right, you're over two. Number 23. Just keep swimming. I haven't seen this one either. Finding Nemo. Hey, you got it. Very good. I saw the sequel. What was the sequel? That was, um, finding Dory. Oh, okay. That's the one I saw. Yeah. Finding

Chris: 28:25

Dory. Is that or Dory?

Jeff: 28:28

Just do, I don't remember. No, I don't know, but yeah. Uh, do I know Dory's? Right? I don't know what else was in there. Okay. You're one for three. If you don't get this. We're we're ending the show. Uh oh. number 22. I am your father.

Chris: 28:46

That was Empire Strikes

Jeff: 28:48

Back. Yeah. Very good. 1980. I'm gonna make sure I got the right

Chris: 28:52

one of

Jeff: 28:52

them. Right. Yeah. OK. You're up to two. Correct so far. Number 21. I know you've seen this one. I don't know how many times you've seen it, but I don't think you're gonna get it. Uh, it's a great movie. Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. I wanna say Wall

Chris: 29:16

Street.

Jeff: 29:18

It's the Godfather Part 2, 1974.

Chris: 29:22

Yeah. OK. No, I never would have gotten that. I've only seen

Jeff: 29:26

that once. Yeah, same here. And I remember really, really liking it. Same with the first one. I've only seen that one once. Think I've probably seen it once too, yeah? I think, uh, I think that quote is from Michael... Al Pacino, I don't remember. Is that right? Saying it to? Yeah. That first

Chris: 29:45

one I know is like, uh, gone with the wind. It's like three or three and a half hours.

Jeff: 29:50

It's a long one. Yeah, it is long. Uh, number 20. Magic mirror on the wall, who is the fairest one of all? Snow White. Yeah, very good. Never seen it. No. Have you?

Chris: 30:06

Um, yeah, I've seen it, but it's, uh, probably just once. And that's one of those, uh, Mandela effect things where people will say, mirror. Mirror

Jeff: 30:18

on the wall. Yeah, I know it. You're right. That's from 1937. Damn. Whoa. You're not gonna get this. Here's the quote, the stuff that dreams are made of. That's it. That didn't even sound that profound, does it? It's all I got. It's from 1941, so there's no way you've seen it. The Maltese Falcon. I don't know anything about it. Yeah. I don't either. Uh, number 18. If you build it, he will come. That's another Mandela effect. Yeah, it's supposed to be they, right? Or people think it's they. That was

Chris: 30:58

Field of Dreams. If you build it, they, yeah, they will come. Yeah. Is what people say, yeah.

Jeff: 31:05

I've never seen that movie either. Really? Yeah.

Chris: 31:10

I don't, I don't remember that much about it. People, people go on and on about it. At least when I saw it, I think I've only seen it once. So, you know, that was probably, that would have been in the theater. I don't know, maybe it would have a different effect on me now, because it was about all these old, you know, these people coming back. Yeah. But, it didn't really affect

Jeff: 31:34

me that much then. Number 17, you're not gonna get this, life is a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death. Hmm. From 1958. Auntie Mame? Or Mamey? M A M E? I've never even heard of it. I haven't either. OK.

Chris: 31:59

But he's right. Or she.

Jeff: 32:00

Whoever said it. Oh, no doubt. Yes. Uh, number 16, a martini, shaken, not stirred. I

Chris: 32:11

know it's James Bond,

Jeff: 32:12

but I don't know the movie. OK, I'll give you credit for that. I did too. The movie's Goldfinger, 1964. OK. Not to be confused with Austin Bauer's Goldmember. Yeah. Uh, number 15. You can't handle the truth. A few good men. Yeah. Very good. That's an awesome movie. I love that one of my favorite movies. So good. Going back to James Bond, you like James Bond movies? Not really.

Chris: 32:46

They just seem so unrealistic to me.

Jeff: 32:49

Yeah. I just, I can't, I'm the same way. I can't stand that kind of stuff. Just as a, like on the one hand, in one part, you think it's, they're being realistic and then there's just this outlandish stuff and I just didn't like it. Yeah. My wife and I went to a James Bond movie. I don't even remember what it was. It's been several years ago. It was when Pierce Brosnan was James Bond. So that tells you how long ago it was, but he's like in this, uh, he's in a tuxedo and. He's going like underwater in this like submarine type thing, but he's, you know, he's getting all wet and when he goes underwater, he adjusts his little bowtie and I hate that kind of shit. I was like, all right, I'm out. I can't take this. So stupid. It is. We walked out of that movie. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. You ever walked out of a movie? Um,

Chris: 33:50

trying to think. There have been several that I thought I should have, but I'm not sure if I ever have. I usually try to stick'em out and think, I don't know. Yeah, I wanna hope for the best, but there have been times that I shouldn't

Jeff: 34:06

have. So we walked out of that one. That's the first one I walked out of. We also walked out of bridesmaids. Did you see that? Did you like it? I

Chris: 34:19

saw it. I didn't feel like I liked it that much, but I didn't remember a whole lot about it. Funny thing about that, I just re watched it probably a month or two ago because I saw a couple of clips from it on TikTok, I think it was TikTok or YouTube Reels or whatever, and what I saw seemed funny, and I was like, I don't even remember that, so let me watch the movie again, and, you know, it was OK. OK, it's nothing that I... I, I don't even know that I could go so far as to recommend it. It was just

Jeff: 34:57

okay. Yeah. I didn't think it was funny at all. When that movie came out, they build it as a, a hangover type movie, like hangover for women. That's, that's what it was supposed to be. And it's not even close to being as funny as The Hangover. Not even close. No, Hangover is much better. And then the most recent one we walked out on was Elvis. Did you see that? Oh, no, I didn't see that. Don't waste your time. It's terrible. Okay.

Chris: 35:27

Really, I hadn't heard anybody, well, I don't know if I've known anybody that saw it, but that's

Jeff: 35:32

good to know. OK, number 14. This is so easy. E. T. Phone Home.

Chris: 35:42

OK. It's, it's

Jeff: 35:44

right there. The answer's in the question. That movie scarred me as a kid. When he, when he was dying? Uh, maybe part of that, but at the end, when he has to leave. That really messed me up. Yeah. And they're all crying. I didn't like that. No. Okay. Number 13. There's no crying in baseball.

Chris: 36:09

That's um, shit. A league of their own. Yeah. Couldn't come up with

Jeff: 36:15

a name. Number 12. Houston, we have a problem. Paulo. 13. Yep. You're not gonna get this one. Number 11, my precious. That's it. Was it Precious? Good guess. It's, uh, Lord of the Rings, Two Towers.

Chris: 36:40

Oh, no. Not gonna get that. There was a movie

Jeff: 36:43

called Precious, you know, so I'll have to say that. OK, number 10. I know you've heard this quote. I don't know if... You know what it comes from. Here's looking at you, kid. It's,

Chris: 36:58

uh, Humphrey Bogart, I think. Yep. Was it Casablanca? Very good. Yeah.

Jeff: 37:05

Never seen it. I haven't either. And why would I?

Chris: 37:10

No. Yeah, see, I don't know anything about it. Yeah. I don't even know if I should

Jeff: 37:16

see it. Well, how good can it be? Seriously, it's from 1942. I mean, unless it's, like, Wizard of Oz quality. Right,

Chris: 37:25

I was gonna say, there are good ones that are old, but there are few and far between.

Jeff: 37:30

Yep. Uh, number nine. I think we just talked about this last week. You're gonna need a bigger boat. Jaws. Yep. Number eight. I'll be back. That was Terminator. Yep. OK. Here's another easy one. I'm doing all right. Yeah, you're doing pretty well. I lost count of how many you got. Yeah, we don't know. Number seven. My mama always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get. For Gump. For Gump. So easy. Yeah. number six. It's alive. It's alive. Um, talking about old movies, it's alive.

Chris: 38:23

Was that, um, Frankenstein?

Jeff: 38:25

Yep. 1931. Yeah. Whoa. Never seen it. No, I haven't either. Um, Mary Shelley wrote the book. And it's from like, I don't remember, I think it's early 1800s. She wrote it when she was 17. Whoa. Yeah. Early 1800s? Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah. Number 4. Carpe Diem. Seize the day, boys. Make your lives extraordinary. Dead Poets Society. Very good. I bailed on that movie. I couldn't watch it. Did you? Oh, I like that one. Maybe I need to give it another shot. I tried watching it two or three years ago, and I just couldn't, couldn't hang with it. You know what cracks me up, and I don't, I don't know if this was intentional on his part, Robin Williams part. I know he ad libbed a bunch of stuff that he did in movies, but he's the star of that movie. He says carpe diem in Mrs. Doubtfire when his fake teeth fall out. Into the glass, he says Carpe Dentum, seize the teeth.

Chris: 39:34

I don't remember that.

Jeff: 39:37

That's funny. Uh, number three, I'm King of the World. Titanic. Yeah, the never ending movie. Yeah. Um, number two, there's no place like home. Wizard of Oz. Yep. And then number one, may the force be with you. That was the first one. Yeah. Star Wars. You know, I didn't even know the first one had a name until like 10 years ago. Oh, A New Hope. Yeah. Yeah. And I've since read that they didn't market it as a new hope, they didn't start referring it, uh, to that until Empire Strikes Back was coming out. And then... Yeah. And then they started adding a new hope to that. But I, how did I miss that all those years? We just always called it Star Wars.

Chris: 40:41

Yeah, well, I mean, that's the name of the movie, but it says it at the beginning when it's scrolling the stuff, you know? Yeah. Um, that was the only reason I knew of it.

Jeff: 40:53

Well, you blew my mind. We went to see Return of the Jedi in 1983. Subpar Talks, LGBT, subpartalks, IMDb. com, www. independentjeff. com, www.

Chris: 41:13

independentjeff.

Jeff: 41:15

com, www.

Chris: 41:17

independentjeff. com, www. independentjeff. com. But then when I became aware of it, that we just, we have seen four, five, and six, it's like, what the hell happened? Like, how did we get

Jeff: 41:33

here? And people are not going to get this who did not grow up then, who were not around our age then. What a thing it was. When Darth Vader died, like, oh yeah, what's going to happen now? We just assumed something has to happen now. Who's going to be the bad person now? Like something has to happen. There's just such a big thing at the end of that movie. Yeah,

Chris: 42:02

I just saw that recently. Somebody had it on and I saw that part where he died. Yeah. Makes me, makes me think of when George and Jerry were talking about when Spock got shot out into space in the giant sunglasses case. I

Jeff: 42:19

love that, yeah, it's hilarious, but that's the episode where Susan, that's the first episode after Susan had died. And, you know, George is exercising restrained jubilation about the death of Susan, but they both get broken up about Spock time. Yes. He cares more about Spock than Susan. Oh, that's good stuff. Alright, well, you did pretty well. I think you did, might have done better than I did.

Chris: 42:57

I'm surprised, I can't think off the top of my head what I expected, but I think I'm kind of surprised that some others weren't on there. I feel like there are a lot of quotes that you hear just over time that didn't come up. I'm just not thinking of anything specifically right now.

Jeff: 43:19

Alright, so this came down just a couple of weeks ago, I guess it was. And we've mentioned this on a previous episode, but our esteemed Attorney General here in Texas was impeached and put on trial in the Senate, Ken Paxton, and he was acquitted of all charges. Well, that's a load of shit. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. A big pile of shit is what it is. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is like it is the Republican party in Texas is fracturing. You've got what I call normal Republicans. Who are, you know, more business minded, economic minded. They're concerned about taxes and a good, you know, business environment and all that. And then you've got the Trump type supporters, the ultra ultra conservative, but they're not just conservative. They're crazy in a lot of ways. And, that, that is the division right now, and Ken Paxton was, he was impeached by Republicans, like there were Republicans in the House who impeached him, of course all Democrats voted to impeach him, but he's got enough allies in the Senate to where I don't even think they got a majority on any single charge. I think he was impeached on 16 different things, and he's corrupt as fuck, there's no doubt about it. It's just, they didn't want to oust one of their own.

Chris: 44:50

See, that's why I'm surprised that he was not found guilty because that, that number of people voted to impeach in the first place. I thought that that would have carried some

Jeff: 45:06

weight. You have to have a two thirds majority to remove him from office. And, uh, you've only got like. I think there are 11 Democrats in the Senate, 10, 11, 12, something like that. So. Uh, I did read, uh, a little snippet that said two Republicans voted to find him guilty on one particular charge, but all the others That's it? Yeah. All the other charges, all Republicans voted not guilty. So there are two Republican Senators in Texas who have anything that comes close to resembling balls. Yeah. No kidding. Yeah. So anyway That's unbelievable. Short of, uh, like, murder. They're not gonna oust, uh, Ken Paxton, so he'll go on doing his thing. Evidently. Corrupt asshole. Yeah. And then we had some more political news a couple of, of weeks ago now that I'm thinking about it. I'm gonna mention somebody's name. Tell me the first word that comes to your mind. Lauren Boebert. What a bitch. She's an idiot through and through.

Chris: 46:28

She is that. She's, uh, completely unprofessional, immature. Whatever I've seen her and, and seen her with Marjorie Taylor Greene too, they just, they act like some immature, and I, I will specify that too, immature teenage

Jeff: 46:51

girls. Yes, that's the impression that I get too, yep, yeah, arrogant, immature. Teenage assholes. Not just teenage

Chris: 47:00

girls but immature ones. Like

Jeff: 47:03

it gets worse. Yeah. I know. Much worse. And, uh, yeah. And some people talk about, you know, so she dropped out of high school, she got her GED and people want to focus on that. I'm like, whatever, you know, she dropped out. People have different reasons for why they drop out, it's not good. But then she went back, she got her education, but holy shit. She's demonstrably unqualified to serve in congress. It's There's no doubt about that. Uh, and she's been elected twice now. Anyway, she and her boyfriend were at a play and they got escorted out. And that was enough to make news in the New York Times right after it happened. The report initially was that they were being loud, talking on their cell phones. Um, just talking out loud when people are trying to listen to the play. Talking

Chris: 47:59

on their cell phones in

Jeff: 48:00

the play. That's what the initial report was. Yeah. But come to find out. And we have video of this, and I'm so gonna post this in the episode notes. She was fondling his dick outside of his pants, he didn't have his dick out, but she was fondling his dick, rubbing on his dick, and he was grabbing her tits and rubbing on those during the play. And that caused enough people to complain. And so they got escorted out by the police and, uh, yeah. And I just, I couldn't believe it. My holy shit. This is a member of Congress and you're doing this unbelievable. So

Chris: 48:49

there's a quote right there. That was from Lean On Me with Morgan Freeman, where he said, Boy, get your hormones under control.

Jeff: 49:00

Yeah, that's appropriate here. Like, that's

Chris: 49:02

exactly right. Get your hormones under control, that you can't be out in a public place watching a play. Without doing that, nevermind who you are, but especially

Jeff: 49:14

who you are. Right, exactly. It's amazing. You can't keep everything in check for the two hours that you're at the play. Right. You can't do that like there are a couple of teenagers in the backseat of a car. Yeah. Unbelievable. I mean, just go get in the car. I thought, yeah, I thought, uh, I thought drag shows were the real threat. People dressed up in drag. I thought that was the real threat to the kids, you know? That's what they tell

Chris: 49:43

us. Well, that had to be all kinds of

Jeff: 49:47

embarrassing. Yeah. And I think she's, uh, issued a statement since or whatever. It was probably like every other Republican does when they're caught with their pants down, so to speak, is, uh, you know, my, my, my behavior was, uh, conflicts with my values and whatever. And then they just, you know, change the subject. We need to focus on blah, blah, blah, just deflecting basically. Focus on the drag show down the street. Yes, exactly. The real danger to the kids. Alright, there you go. That is another episode. If you like this kind of stuff, you should follow us on whatever platform you listen to podcasts on. That way you're going to get new episodes delivered to you automatically every single Tuesday when they drop. And, while you are there, we would really appreciate it if you would rate us, and of course we'd really appreciate it if you'd give us five stars. We have a website, that is subpartalks. com, there you can email us, you can leave us a voicemail. If you want to leave suggestions for topics we should cover on future episodes, please do that as well. We always take those into consideration. We are on social media. On X, we are at Subpar Talks. On Facebook, we are Subpar Talks. If you want to follow our personal ex accounts, fuck Elon Musk, on there, I am at Independent Jeff. And

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